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E009 | Soo Chuen Tan

On this episode of Aspirational Investing, Mike Miller, CIO of Crewcial Partners, sits down with Soo Chuen Tan, Founder and President of Discerene Group, a global equity manager investing on behalf of a group of philosophically aligned institutional partners.

Tan studied law at Oxford University and earned his MBA at Harvard Business School, where he was a George F. Baker Scholar, before working at McKinsey & Company, Halcyon Asset Management, and the Baupost Group; he founded Discerene in 2010. Over the course of the conversation, he lays out an approach built on carefully defined, yet sometimes misunderstood terms ("fundamental," "long-term," and "contrarian"), a private-equity-like fund structure, and a scientist's conviction that intrinsic value exists independent of what the market currently believes about it.

Mike Miller, Chief Investment Officer of Crewcial Partners | Published August, 2026

Insights

Truth Is Not Negotiated, But Discovered

Tan traces his approach to investing back to a scientific upbringing (both of his parents taught physics in Malaysia). He treats intrinsic value the way a natural scientist treats a physical phenomenon; it exists as an objective fact independent of consensus or perception, even though no one can observe it directly. The task of a value investor, in his framing, is not to read what other investors currently believe a business is worth, but to approximate, with necessarily imperfect tools, what it is actually worth.

A Moat Is Not a Synonym for Quality

In the investment world, "quality" is often used loosely to describe a business with high margins, high returns on capital, or a large market share. Tan says those metrics are just outcomes, not explanations; they tell you that a business is currently doing well, but not why it's able to keep doing well. His definition of a moat is meant to answer that question: a barrier to entry that lets a business keep earning unusually high profits year after year, instead of watching those profits fade as rivals move in. He notes that this is genuinely rare, since in a normal, competitive market, big profits are supposed to attract competitors who eventually compete them away; a business that keeps earning outsized profits for decades, without that happening, is the exception. He pointed to the list of companies widely seen as the best businesses in the 1980s (GE, Xerox, DuPont, Eastman Kodak, IBM, Walmart, and Coca-Cola among them) and noted how few of them kept those same economics decades later; Warren Buffett's purchase of Coca-Cola in the late 1980s is a case of correctly spotting a moat that would last, at a time when much of the market didn't see it.

Clock Speed and Moat Strength Are Different Questions

Beyond identifying a moat, Discerene separately evaluates what Tan calls the “clock speed” of a business, meaning how quickly it changes. He distinguishes fast-changing businesses (“fruit flies”), moderately durable ones (“cats and dogs”), and slow-changing, highly durable businesses (“sea turtles”), and argues that a common and costly mistake, one that has affected parts of the software sector recently, is valuing a fast-clock-speed business as though it had the durability of a sea turtle.

A Thesis Has to Be Falsifiable

Tan's legal training at Oxford shaped an insistence that an investment thesis function as a testable argument rather than a persuasive story; it must be capable of being disconfirmed by evidence. Discerene writes out a thesis for every holding and treats it as provisionally true only until such evidence appears. When the gap between price and the firm's estimate of intrinsic value widens without this evidence emerging, Tan said the appropriate response is typically to buy more.

The Fund Structure Is Built to Enable the Philosophy

Tan described Discerene as “private equity-like”: multi-year investor-level gates, multi-year crystallization of incentive allocations, and a capital-commitment structure in which investor capital remains uncalled until Discerene identifies an opportunity. Unlike private equity funds, its vehicles have no terminal life or mandatory harvesting period; this structure allowed the firm to call capital during the March 2020 dislocation to focus on internal rates of return (which he argued better reflect what investors actually experience) rather than time-weighted returns, and to return capital to investors, as it did a few months before this conversation, when it did not see compelling opportunities to deploy it.

Mark-to-Market Pricing, Not the Underlying Business, Is What Erodes Patience

Tan argued that the same business, held privately, would prompt little anxiety in its owners, but that once it is priced daily in public markets, comparison against other funds' returns creates pressure disconnected from the business's actual earnings power. He described what he calls the “institutional immune system,” or the tendency of investment committees to respond to a period of underperformance with a formal inquiry into what went wrong, a process that, even when it concludes no error was made, still produces a chilling effect on future contrarian decisions.

Correlation Arguments for New Asset Classes Often Rest on the Wrong Benchmark

Tan pushed back on the common practice of allocating to asset classes like private credit or cryptocurrency based on low correlation to public equities, arguing that the theoretically correct benchmark, one spanning all global assets, public and private, doesn't exist and can't be measured. He also noted that infrequent price discovery doesn't make an asset class less risky, just less observably volatile, and warned that capital flowing into an asset class because it looks good in a model portfolio can itself inflate the returns that drew the capital in.

Discerene Selects Its Investors as Deliberately as Its Companies

The firm has turned down more capital than it has accepted over its history, screening for investors who share its definition of "long term" (measured in decades, not years) and “risk” (permanent capital impairment, not volatility), walking away even after lengthy due-diligence processes when it judges the partnership isn't a genuine philosophical fit.

Diversity of Background as an Underwriting Advantage

Discerene's ten-person investment team spans seven nationalities and nine languages, along with varied educational, professional, and socioeconomic backgrounds. Tan described how teammates with different lived experience and training often reach different conclusions when analyzing the same company, and that surfacing the assumptions behind that disagreement, rather than smoothing it over, is where better underwriting comes from.

Giving Follows the Same First-Principles Logic as Investing

The Discerene Scholars Program funds students from underserved communities in less developed countries to attend university, a group Tan said the firm's philanthropic capital reaches with the greatest effect. He connected the program to his own background, growing up in Malacca, Malaysia, and to the Jardine Foundation scholarship that funded his own studies at Oxford. He recalled that the first flight he ever took was to a scholarship interview in Hong Kong, while the second was to Oxford itself.

Core Takeaways

  • Intrinsic value is treated as an objective, if unobservable, fact; the discipline lies in approximating it without letting the prevailing consensus shape the estimate.
  • A moat is a specific claim about durable barriers to entry, not a synonym for high margins, growth, or market share.
  • Clock speed, or the pace at which a business changes, is a separate axis from moat strength; conflating the two can become a recurring source of error.
  • An investment thesis must be falsifiable and is only ever provisionally true.
  • Private-equity-like fund structures, including capital calls and no terminal fund life, enable genuinely long holding periods and IRR-focused thinking.
  • Mark-to-market pricing, more than the fundamentals of the underlying business, is identified as the primary source of investor impatience.
  • Correlation-based cases for new asset classes often rest on benchmarks that do not exist or cannot be reliably measured.
  • Discerene selects its investors as rigorously as it selects its investments, prioritizing philosophical alignment over available capital.
  • Diversity of background on the investment team improves underwriting by surfacing different assumptions.


Notes & REFERENCES
  1. Permanent capital is an investment structure without fixed timeframes, unlike traditional private equity funds, which require selling assets within set lifecycles. This flexibility allows investors to hold onto assets as long as they find it beneficial, avoiding forced sales regardless of market conditions. By removing these time constraints, permanent capital fosters more strategic, uninterrupted partnerships, focusing on long-term growth rather than the pressure of achieving short-term gains.

 

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, legal, or investment advice. The opinions expressed are those of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of Crewcial Partners LLC. Listeners should consult with a qualified financial advisor before making any investment decisions. Past performance is not indicative of future results, and all investments involve risk.

 

What were some of the main successes of Crewcial Partners last year?

Summary: Most importantly, we maintained our long-term posture through an unfriendly market. Markets have a way of overreacting to events; however, our clients stayed on track and kept their public equity exposure at high levels. Our process ensured we never faced liquidity challenges or any issue that demanded we act in a short-term matter.

Lesson: A long-term bias works but requires discipline, diversification, and an understanding of expectations. Fundamentals and valuation—the price you pay for something— ultimately matters. Crises and difficult times have winners and losers. The winners are ultimately those with the strongest balance sheets, best business strategies, and the most capable manager teams; they win over the longer term because they're better than their competition.

What are your thoughts on sizing in the current environment?

Summary: It can seem contrary to human nature at times; the stuff that does well, you want to see become a bigger and bigger part of the portfolio.  However, you should be adding money to managers that have struggled but are poised to rebound, keeping in mind your longer-term return profile. Sizing is important and depends on a deep understanding of diversification and manager volatility profiles.

Lesson: Take advantage of the natural cyclicality within markets, selling at the peaks and buying the bottom is the way to long-term sustainable success. Be proactive when managers have a great year. When Crewcial has a manager that's up 100%, we ensure that we trim back 25-50% so the capital is ready to redeploy into out-of-favor managers with even stronger future prospects.

What are some of the areas that could be improved from 2023?

Summary: We are still trying to wrap our heads around the way markets are actually functioning; the gap between price and fundamental value seems as if it's become unbounded. This creates a problem of balance. If you're constructing a diversified portfolio, one of your underlying assumptions is that it will moderate volatility and some of the short-terms concerns; this should allow you to play offense when things are bad and a little defense when things are really good. But that falls apart if markets are creating high correlations that shouldn't exist between strategies. We’re still learning to better understand which conditions can and will create more of these correlation issues, so that we don't end up constructing portfolios that require truly extraordinary levels of patience to see through.

Lesson: Cultivate a better understanding of correlation among managers.  Thinking about managers based on the way they behave in different market climates is important. Prepare for various environments and build portfolios that are not going to have several seemingly distinct strategies reacting to the same market environment. Diversification is ultimately always your friend.

What are some of the insights you’ve gained from your latest year of travel?

Summary: Being back on the road has been one of the great events of 2023. It’s rewarding to physically sit down with people, whether in Europe, Asia, South America, Africa, or the United States, and really hear what they’re seeing on the ground, what they’re doing in their portfolios, and the real-world implications, because markets aren't necessarily the real world.  Being reminded how different people see the world differently is immensely important as an investor.

Lesson: Preferable options exist outside indexation; opening up to a global perspective broadens one’s ability to consider truly impactful diversification. The goal is to find differentiated thinking wherever it is.  We're not looking for investment managers, we’re looking for thoughtful, engaged people who invest.

What does history tell us for “Magnificent Seven” index funds going forward?

Summary: The index has reached a very high level of valuation concentrated in a group of unbelievably dominant companies.  However, while no one is arguing that Apple is a bad business, there is a price for everything and this price seems too high right now. From the 60s through the 00s, people felt the same about many companies that didn't prove to be very good investments. One way to illustrate this is to look at the top five in late 90s, which included Cisco, Intel, General Electric, Microsoft, and IBM. If we exclude Microsoft from the equation, these are all still pretty powerful businesses but they have not been good stocks to own. It’s the inevitable nature of impermanence. We can almost guarantee ten or 20 years from now, the current names will be around, but they probably won't be the most popular or dominant names in the market.

Lesson: Design portfolios to capture the broader economy; while well-constructed portfolios will always have allocations to bigger names, entire swaths of the economy are growing at a much faster rate than these brand-name businesses and are currently being overlooked by investors. Capture long-term opportunities today cheaply.

What is Crewcial excited about for 2024?

Summary: First, ESG, which has unfortunately become a very controversial subject. However, at the end of the day, it's a powerful risk framework; from our perspective, we need to be able to arm both our clients and our research team and consultants with better information on this subject and approach, as it’s a complicated topic.  We can't make it simple, but we can identify very specific variables at the portfolio company level to transparently consider which managers and portfolios have a higher level of risk around material environmental, social, and governance issues that affect their viability as good investments.

Second, another big change at Crewcial was our formation of an investment committee. We’re doubling down on our approach, allowing talented team members to focus on what they understand best and follow their passions as investors, but we’re now taking those passions and directing them into somewhat of a more formalized process. It's based on tracking, monitoring, and ensuring individuals get the training they need to scale and fully capture the bigger picture to find the best managers, no matter their initial backgrounds upon entering the firm, while pairing complementary skillsets to bring out the team’s full potential.

Lesson: Don’t be afraid to be different while embracing the fundamental rules of finance. Identify the full scope of everyone’s areas of strength and play off each to build a greater whole. Embrace idiosyncrasies and preferences while being open and honest with feedback and assessments. We do not treat our investment team members as analysts, rather as investors cultivating an owner’s mindset. We're trying to find ways to capitalize on differentiated perspectives to ultimately uncover the difference between market price and fundamental value; seeing things differently, and cultivating an environment in which such perspectives can range openly, is a critical element of that.

We don’t just want the usual suspects from the same handful of schools, we want to expand our collective perspective to include more women, ethnically diverse individuals, and people of all persuasions from different parts of the country or with different educational or experiential backgrounds—talented people come in all shapes and sizes. A diverse team of diverse perspectives is intended to capture the overlooked points of view necessary to uncover the next great idea.

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